Tech workers have been partially insulated from the hard-nosed realities of “They pay me $5 because I make them $6 or $7.” But from various HN posts it seems that typical young SV dev has no experience with that and many feel they are changing the world for the better, when reality its at best a zero sum game, and often not even that (ie optimizing ad revenue stream for your corporation is definitely loss for mankind as a whole, or anything that makes societal parasites who breed depression like facebook/insta/tiktok more effective at their goals).īut folks for some obscure reason need to feel that their work has a good purpose and high moral ground, hence sometimes quite advanced mental gymnastics seen also here. Bear in mind that this was never true in corporations where IT was treated as a cost center, ie banking. IT, mostly in SV and other places cargo-culting ie Google is often really treated like divas. I don't agree those other engineers are treated as cattle, merely as normal employees. And lets be honest here, its not that different job despite what some bigger egos think about their work and echo chambers that keep them in that dream. If US/EU get just a significant fraction of those developers needed, software dev salaries will go to the level of other engineering, say mechanical, construction or material one. Let's not forget the "US/Europe needs X millions more developers" reports churned out every few months. The higher rate was appropriate supply-and-demand-wise for when it was applied (and it might raise again as IT companies compete for developers, and so on). So, under neither theory workers can be overpaid under any normal circumstances.Īt worst, under capitalism there can be a higher market rate that gets adjusted to a lower one, but at each point in time none of those was "overpaid", it was the best the market knew to set. Under a marxist labour market theory employees still can't be overpaid if the company makes a profit on top of what it would re-invest in itself (infrastructure, etc.). They are paid exactly what they are worth, as price is based on supply and demand equilibrium. Under a capitalistic labour market theory, employees are not and can't be "overpaid" (and surely not for decades on end). IT being an "amazing productivity" boost, means those "divas" you describe just get small part of the value they create, especially since a heck of a lot of the rest ends as unprecedented profit levels. > But we were incredibly lucky that IT is the most amazing productivity cheat code humanity has come up with so far, so that all this BS was accepted as the cost of doing business.Īren't you seeing it backwards? Other professions should have the same "luxuries", in a humane working world. If you don't solve problems, when the hard times come, and they always do, you become part of the problem. No, we are not paid to rate the best cappuccino of the valley, converting the most stable software of your org to Elm nor write a commit hook so that nothing can be pushed before the diversity committee validated the change set. If you had any professional doing the same, wasting so much resources as us, changing part of the tech stack every month, debating vocabulary on twitter ad nauseam instead of coding, and whining about how their first world problem should be the focus right now rather than doing their job, they would get laughed at.īut we were incredibly lucky that IT is the most amazing productivity cheat code humanity has come up with so far, so that all this BS was accepted as the cost of doing business. We are overpaid for incredible working conditions and devs basically became capricious divas, despite the fact 90% of them are plumbers, and many not very good ones.
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